Aryans original people oof India! -5

....When comparing Harappan civilization and Rig Vedic civilization, two things are to be noted. First is that the civilizations are developed in the order of hunter, pastoral, agricultural and urban stages. For a community, a movement down to lower stages means that the higher stages have become extinct. For an urban civilization to become a purely agricultural in nature means that its cities must have become extinct. And for agricultural civilization to become pastoral civilization means that agriculture has become extinct. Otherwise there seems to be no known reason for the people to take up an inferior way of live by opting for a lower level civilization. The people at higher level would not move knowingly to a lower level. Second is that copper was discovered and used earlier than iron.

The Rig Vedic civilization was pastoral where as Harappan civilization was urban in nature. The Harappan civilization was two steps ahead of Rig Vedic people’s way of life. It had agriculture as well cities both of which are missing from the life of Rig Vedic people who depended on their cow, horses and plunder. The Rig Vedic people did not have permanent villages - a well planned city was a far fetched thing. There is no mention of cities in Rig Veda. It is impossible that such big cities missed the eyes of Rig Vedic people if they were contemporary of Harappan people. If they were same people then still Rig Vedic people had to mention these big cities. The cultural mascot of Aryans, horse has negligible presence in Harappan civilization. However the importance of Ashwa (horse) is also evident in Avesta where it is know as Aspa indicating outside connections of Aryans. The horse along with cow was mainstay of Rig Vedic Aryans and agriculture and trade that of Harappans. Then there is no original knowledge of elephant in Rig Veda where as Harappans used ivory in trade. One more thing is that the now discovered dried up river flows through a region which was the empire of great cow killer, the tiger. This great cow killer is never mentioned in Rig Veda where as it is found on Harappan seals. The Rig Veda mentions neither Harappan seals nor trade. Thus Rig Vedic people never came into contact with Harappan people. They came after Harappan civilization had disappeared and only its agriculture survivors were there. The now discovered dried up river is not Sarsawati. The real river Sarsawati is in Afghanistan now. This also indicates that some parts of Rig Veda were heard in Afghanistan. The newly discovered river must be given some new name.

However we may consider some other possibilities. One possibility is that Rig Vedic people were very ancient and original inhabitants of this mammoth land. They heard Rig Veda and then took up agriculture and developed urban cities of Harappa and traded with Sumerian people. After that they went into decline. The cities disappeared. The agriculture also became extinct and they took up the pastoral life. The extinction of agricultural is a must if they were to go down to the level of nomadic living. However there are no signs that agriculture became extinct in Sapta-Sandhav region. The Vedas themselves mention that agriculture was the occupation of defeated people. Thus, the sequence of Rig Vedic people going down to the level of pastoral living from agriculture is incorrect. And there is no possibility that Rig Veda is older than Harappan civilization.

We may also consider another possibility that first Rig Veda was there and then agriculture was developed in later Vedic period and the urban Harappan cities were developed. These cities declined and new phase of urban development started after 600 BC. This puts later Vedic period to be older than Harappan period. But here we have to consider the use of metal in both the civilizations. The Harappan civilization used bronze and copper with no trace of iron. In later Vedic period use of iron also became frequent. Thus we have absence of iron in Harappan civilization and its presence in later Vedic period. As we know that copper was discovered earlier than iron, so Harappan civilization has to be predated to later Vedic period. Thus Harappan civilization is in no way connected with Vedic civilization. Rig Vedic Aryans came to India from outside and established their cultural hegemony through culture of Yagyas. ..

Aryans origina people of India ! -4

...If Rig Vedic people were the original people of India and moved outside from east to west then this is not indicated by the presence of Vedas in the regions outside India. It is logical that the people who heard Vedas took the word of God with them to other regions. It is quite clear that the gods Indra, Varun and Mitra predate Rig Veda. They are mentioned separately and independently of Rig Veda...

Aryans origina people of India ! -3

... The common river to both the people can only be Harhawati because Indo-Iranians are not known cross the river Sindhu. If Rig Veda is older than Avesta and river Harhawati was known to Indo-Iranians through Vedas then Avesta must mention Rig Veda which it does not...

Aryans origina people of India ! -2

... If the movement of Aryans was from east to west then the river Ganga is placed to west of river Sindhu, which is contradicted by the present position of rivers...

...The region of Sapta-Sandhav was known to Rig Vedic people and also to Indo-Iranians. It was one of the sixteen regions known to Indo-Iranians. They knew it as Hapta-Hindhav (“s” gets converted into “h” in Avestan old Sanskrit). In addition, they, also, knew a river called Harhawati which translates into Sarsawati in Rig Vedic Sanskrit. Avesta is dated back to 1400 BC which means that there was a river called Sarsawati in 1400 BC in Sapta-Sandhav region. Avesta does not mention Rig Veda which means that it is a separate source about river Sarsawti...

Aryans original people of India ! -1

...Recently, a once dried up river has been discovered in the area of Sapta-Sandhav of Rig Vedic Aryans through satellite imagery. At the same time, there is river Saraswati mentioned in Rig Veda which cannot be identified with any of the rivers following in the Indian subcontinent. The river Saraswati was very important to Rig Vedic people. It has been praised and praised for its mightiness and its beneficial affects. Sometime it is more prominent than the river Sindhu. Sapta-Sandhav was the region in which Rig Vedic people lived. This region now a day contains only five rivers. The mention of river Saraswati becomes less as one moves from Rig Veda to other Vedas and Puranas. Some people have identified this newly discovered dried up river with the river Saraswati mentioned in the Rig Veda. This river was supposed to have been dried up by 1900 BC. Therefore, if it is the same river which is mentioned in Rig Veda, then Rig Veda is at least as old the river meaning it was heard before 1900 BC. And most probably much earlier than that because it mentions a Saraswati in its full flow and not in its drying stages. This intends to refute the general dating of Rig Veda of 1500 BC to 900 BC. If correct this also goes to show that Rig Vedic people were contemporary of Harappan civilization. The Harappan civilization has been dated from 2800 BC to 1900 BC. Some people have even gone to extent of claiming Harappan civilization as Rig Vedic civilization...

...As far as we are concerned it makes no bearing on our interpretation of caste system, it merely pushes back the date of beginning of caste or Varna system...